Indonesian Muslim Association of Austin, Texas

Session 08 · Al-A'raf 7:52–58

Facilitator guide

For whoever leads this passage with their own circle.

3 min readWednesday 21 October 202610 Jumada al-Ula 1448

Read · 3 min · For whoever leads the circle

For whoever leads this passage with their own circle: what to prepare, how the hour can run, the points to handle with care, and what to ask if the room goes quiet.

Before you start

Running order — 60 minutes
StartLengthSegmentWhat to do
0:005 minWelcome and opening du'aWelcome everyone. Name newcomers and guests without putting them on the spot.
0:0510 minRecitation — 7:52–58Play Alafasy (3:16) from the Verses page, or ask a reciter in your circle. Then read the Saheeh translation aloud, or ask a volunteer.
0:1520 minTafsir — four unitsAyat 52–53, ayah 54, ayat 55–56 and 57–58, about 4, 5, 6 and 5 minutes. In ayah 54, give the six days and why not in an instant; take the Throne only if asked (below). Read Sahih al-Bukhari 7386 with ayah 55, and Sahih al-Bukhari 79 with ayah 58.
0:3515 minDiscussionQ1, Q2 and Q3, about five minutes each; the first two are the ones the sample circle reads out. Ask one question at a time. People may pass, and may answer with general examples. Prompts for a quiet room are below.
0:5010 minReflection and closing du'aKeep the reflection. The fill-in line on the handout is a natural one to end on. The sample circle closes with the du'a for the end of a gathering; you may close your circle with it too (below).

Teaching with care

"How did Allah rise over the Throne?" A prepared answer

Likely questions: from a guest, does Allah sit, or is He in a place; from a member, which view is right. The answer, in the commentators' words. We affirm what the ayah says, as it says it, without asking how. Ibn Kathir cites 42:11 here: "There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the Hearing, the Seeing." Al-Qurtubi records Imam Malik: the istiwāʾ is known, and the how is unknown. Ibn Kathir says this is not the place to set out all the positions, and al-Qurtubi says that what he has given is enough. A halaqa does not settle a question scholars have discussed for centuries. No sectarian framing, and no naming of groups today.

Al-Qurtubi goes on: Malik added that asking about it is an innovation, and Umm Salama said the same. That third clause is on no other page. Said to a guest, it can sound like a rebuke to the one asking; the first two clauses are enough.

Al-Tabari says nothing new at 7:54; he refers back to 2:29, a different phrase, istawā ilā al-samāʾ. There his own choice is that He rose above it with a rising of dominion and authority, not a rising of moving and passing (paraphrase from the Arabic). If you name al-Tabari, name him on 2:29.

For your own listening: Omar Suleiman, The Beginning and the End: The Throne (Ep 5), Bayyinah, 9:59; Malik's answer comes at about 7:42–8:53. It is not on the lecture list: it never names 7:54, it gives one position, and its opening minutes carry material we could not source.

The six days, and the report about the days of the week

Q2 is about why six days, not about what a day was. If someone asks how there were days before the sun: Ibn Kathir reports a difference, days like ours or each like a thousand years (from Mujahid, Imam Ahmad, and Ibn ʿAbbas through al-Dahhak). Al-Jalalayn: "in the equivalent thereof since there was no sun then". The Verses page shows Saheeh's "days"; quran.com's word gloss has epochs, and the page says why it is not used. Keep to the commentators' words, and offer no scientific reading, for or against.

Sahih Muslim 2789 names what was created on each day of the week. The abridged Ibn Kathir quotes it with no comment. His full Arabic says it covers seven days while the ayah says six, and that for this reason al-Bukhari and other hadith masters spoke against it and took it to be Abu Hurayra's report from Kaʿb al-Ahbar, not from the Prophet ﷺ. It is on no other page. If it comes up, say what Ibn Kathir says.

Rain before the resurrection: "forty"

At 7:57 Ibn Kathir says, with no source given, that rain will fall for forty days before the dead rise. Al-Tabari gives a report from Abu Hurayra of forty years of rain with no chain; his editor Shakir found no source for it, and points instead to Muslim's narration about forty between the two blasts. The graded narrations on Sunnah.com (Sahih al-Bukhari 4814, Sahih Muslim 2955a and 2940a) do not say what the commentators say. None of it is on another page. Ibn Kathir's plain point is on the tafsir page: as Allah gives life to dead land, He will raise the dead.

Raising the hands, and ways of overstepping in du'a

Background, not rulings. On raising the hands, al-Qurtubi reports that some of the early generation disliked it and others reported it from Companions and from the Prophet ﷺ. His own conclusion: du'a is good however it comes easily. Facing the qibla and raising the hands is good, and not doing so is fine; the Prophet did both, and the ayah sets no posture. For a ruling on your own practice, ask a scholar you trust.

On al-muʿtadīn, al-Qurtubi lists ways of overstepping in du'a: much loudness and shouting; asking for a prophet's rank, or for the impossible; asking for a sin; and choosing contrived rhymed phrases from notebooks with no basis, while leaving the du'a the Prophet made. That last one can sting in a community that loves its du'a books. If you use it, give it as al-Qurtubi's, with the Prophet's own du'a as the positive side. Q7 and Ibn Majah 3864 (the white palace) make the same point gently.

Wind, rain and the news

Muslim 899a (optional on the hadith page) shows the Prophet's ﷺ fear before a dark cloud and his relief when the rain came. Keep it with him and with the ayah. Nobody reads a present-day storm, flood or drought as a punishment or a reward. Someone in the room may have been through a flood or a drought; if one is brought up, acknowledge it kindly and come back to the text. The tafsir page's note on ayat 57–58 says the same.

Taʾwīl in ayah 53

All four commentators read taʾwīl here as the outcome coming true, not as interpretation. Someone who knows 3:7, or the Indonesian takwil, may hear interpretation. The Arabic words card keeps to the outcome, with Yusuf's dream at 12:100.

The sample circle, and the closing du'a

The audio for this passage is a sample circle: Benedict, a teacher, with four members, Salma, Yu, Viraj and Victor. They are not real people, and their voices are made with AI; the Listen page says so. Its two questions at the end (do I have to make du'a out loud; is it wrong to ask for very specific things) were written for it, not asked by a real person. The opening du'a is Alafasy's recitation of 20:114. The closing du'a, for the end of a gathering, is said by an AI voice, since no recording we could use was found.

That du'a: Abu Dawud 4859, from Abu Barza, that the Prophet ﷺ said it when he was about to rise from a gathering, and called it an expiation for what happens in the gathering (Grade: Hasan Sahih (Al-Albani), as listed on Sunnah.com); also Tirmidhi 3433 (Grade: Sahih (Darussalam), as listed on Sunnah.com). It is the sixth, optional reading on the hadith page.

If your circle studied the earlier passages

Q1 (a quiet du'a) and Q3 (a reminder that stayed) are new. Q2 is about haste, not capacity: Q3 of 7:37–43 asked what changes if the measure is our own capacity. Q5's ṭamaʿ continues yaṭmaʿūna from 7:44–51, whose Q1 asked about hope from in between; Q5 here asks about keeping fear and hope together. Ayah 56's iṣlāḥ continues aṣlaḥa from 7:32–36, and ayah 58's al-ṭayyib continues ṭayyibāt from the same passage.

Text notes: transliteration, glosses, brackets

The full-ayah transliteration edition has six slips in this passage. The Verses page prints them corrected, names each in its reading key, and says the corrections are ours: qiyaamin for aiyaamin at 7:54, the six days, which is the one that matters; Rabbakkumul and summmas at 7:54; taa weelah at 7:53; annzalnaa and minn at 7:57. yatlu buhoo at 7:54 is left as the edition has it. The word glosses at 7:54 follow Saheeh, "days" and "established Himself" "above", not quran.com's epochs and He ascended on. Saheeh's brackets in 7:53, 7:54 and 7:57 are the translators'; its "[He created]" in 7:54 follows one of two readings the commentators give.

Left out of the pages

Not on any other page, and why. Abu Razin's question about how Allah brings creation back, and the answer of a valley once barren and then green (al-Qurtubi, from al-Bayhaqi): on Sunnah.com it is only in Mishkat al-Masabih 5531, with no grade. The saying that the best dhikr is the hidden one, which al-Qurtubi gives as the Prophet's: not found on Sunnah.com. Al-Tabari's report on the command at 7:54 (his number 14776): his editor Shakir calls it weak. Tirmidhi 983 (hope and fear at death, graded Hasan): replaced by Muslim 898, so the page is not at a deathbed right after Muslim 2877a on the 7:44–51 page. No lecture card for Yasir Qadhi's DUA with Ultimate Humility or for Mufti Menk's Comparing Rain to Resurrection, which we could not read. If any of these is brought to you, say where it is from and why it is not on the pages.

If the room goes quiet

Two short sections on the Start a halaqa page help with any passage: When a question comes and Keeping the talk going.

On Q1:

"Who taught you your first du'a, and how did they say it?"

On Q2:

"Think of something good in your life that took years. What would have been lost if it had come at once?"

On Q3:

"Is there an ayah or a hadith you heard many times before it finally meant something to you?"

Closing on time

If the discussion is still going at 0:50, close it kindly. Say the question can stay open for next time, and move to the reflection. Ending on time is part of keeping the circle.

After the session

Next time: Al-A'raf 7:59–64, the story of Nuh. Its pages are not ready yet; new materials come every Wednesday. See all sessions. Choose the date together before everyone leaves.

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